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Old 10-11-18, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Fusion is coming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEMOns..._Power_Station

Once the first couple of plants are up and running, the technology could rapidly be widely distributed around the world.

Of course, they could discover major flaws in the engineering or unforeseen difficulties. Time will tell.

Controlled fusion could also augment space exploration and colonization or mining.
Never said it wasn't coming. I said it would be rendered economically irrelevant as a terrestrial power source by the time it finally does.

They haven't gotten a sustainable reaction going yet. They haven't figured out how to get out more power they've even put in, yet. And, what is more, they certainly haven't figured out how a generator to convert nuclear fusion into an electrical power source (they're hoping a steam generator can be made to do it). "Once the first couple of plants are up and running", well that "once" is probably a century away at a wild guess. "Widely distributed" indeed, funny considering how obscenely expensive fission plants are and how few can afford them....indeed even in countries that can--they do not, although that is as much NIMBY as economics.
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Old 10-11-18, 02:29 PM
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Developing a self sustaining colony on Mars is a survival tactic. Catastrophic things can happen here, like super volcanoes, meteors, nuclear war, etc. And there are slow motion catastrophes like global warming and over population.

Having a backup planet to live on increases the survivability of the species.
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Old 10-11-18, 02:46 PM
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Who knows...they just might discover a substance on the surface of Mars...that is twice as strong as steel...half the weight of carbon fiber...but don't assplode. Imagine a road bike that weighs only 10 pounds.
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Old 10-11-18, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Who knows...they just might discover a substance on the surface of Mars...that is twice as strong as steel...half the weight of carbon fiber...but don't assplode. Imagine a road bike that weighs only 10 pounds.
A road bike on Mars that only weighs 10lbs is easy. Martian gravity is only 38% of Earth's. Also since there's barely an atmosphere, there's barely any "air" resistance.
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Fusion power has been 20 years away for the last 50 years. If and when it finally happens, it will be due to some major new advance, not the same old people doing the same old thing only bigger this time
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Old 10-11-18, 03:49 PM
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Sounds like a one-way trip, like the Heaven's Gate Cult heading out to the dark side of the comet Hale-Bopp, only... a lot more expensive.
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Old 10-11-18, 03:52 PM
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And there are slow motion catastrophes like global warming...

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That used to be called... weather.
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Old 10-11-18, 06:01 PM
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What would we do when we get there? Open a Walmart? Or should we use resources to fix the problems on Earth first? I don’t see mankind getting off this planet anytime soon.
Mars does not have a Walmart but there is a supermarket, a post office and a drug store there.

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Old 10-11-18, 06:54 PM
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Old 10-11-18, 10:20 PM
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That used to be called... weather.
You may call it what you like.
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I worked at Mars for several years.
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl View Post
…or it could be about the science, technology, environmental and medical advancements that come from the research into projects like that…like what nasa projects have given us over the last 50+ years.
+1.

This is one case where it's really not about the destination, it's about the journey.
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Can get hot there but... it's a dry heat
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Old 10-12-18, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
A road bike on Mars that only weighs 10lbs is easy. Martian gravity is only 38% of Earth's. Also since there's barely an atmosphere, there's barely any "air" resistance.
DUDE! Think of the Strava numbers one could post there.....you know, aside from nothing to breathe.
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Old 10-12-18, 12:23 PM
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DUDE! Think of the Strava numbers one could post there.....you know, aside from nothing to breathe.
Plus whoever gets there first gets to name all the Strava segments.
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Old 10-12-18, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
What would you do when you get there? Bloviate? Or should you use the time to fix your own problems first? I don't see you getting out of doing the dishes any time soon.
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Old 10-12-18, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
What would we do when we get there? Open a Walmart? Or should we use resources to fix the problems on Earth first? I don’t see mankind getting off this planet anytime soon.
We'd better get off the earth soon. It ain't gonna be around much longer and we need to Scatter, Adapt, and Remember.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I cannot answer your question, but I can say I wasted my money watching Matt Damon get rescued from Mars--twice.
Did you hope he wouldn't make it the second time?
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Old 10-12-18, 01:51 PM
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Did you hope he wouldn't make it the second time?
Absolutely. I also routed for the infected in that horrible sequel to "28 Days Later," "28 Weeks Later." I wanted every non-infected person to die. That's how bad the film is.
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